Whole Latte Love
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My ECM pid and 270wi worked perfect the first month and then awful no matter what I tried.
Every shot takes 50-60 seconds, and no crema. Please help!
Warranties do not include the largest expense - shipping
I bought a Gaggia Classic from Whole Latte Love, they sent me a faulty machine, twice. The first machine was dented so I contacted them for a replacement immediately. It took a whole month to get a replacement. The second machine was also faulty. The pump elbow was leaking inside. It took a while for the leak to become obvious since enough water had to collect inside and escape in a way that was noticeable. This time it should be covered as a warranty repair - sounds okay, but not really.
The machine is basically new, I have managed to get no more than 15 double espresso shots from it. It was faulty on arrival, it just wasn't immediately obvious. I have been trying to get this issue resolved for a month now. I really feel that they have wasted my time creating obstacles for me to get over. Asking for an order number which could only be found on the packing slip because the replacement machine order was not communicated by email (who keeps packing slips?!), Asking me to open up the machine to find where the leak was coming from. Offering to send teflon tape so I could try to repair the leaking joint myself (you have to remove the pump to do this), then changing their minds saying if it can't just be tightened then the pump probably needs replacing.
After wasting my time with all this lark they tell me that they can fix it but shipping is not included in the warranty and that's the largest expense. - it would cost me $80 to ship it to them and back (I have to pay the shipping both ways). After much haggling I managed to get them to organise all the shipping and I paid them for the return shipping.
This purchase has been a lesson for me. I will never spend this amount of money with a company that has such poor returns policy for faulty items.
My advice: buy your espresso machine from reputable company with a respectable returns policy. Whole Latte Love is not such a place.
Great price but they don't stand behind their work.
I bought a refurbished Gaggia Classic from them which looked new when it arrived. Unfortunately the group gasket (portafilter gasket) was way too tight and the portafilter barely fits on.
You have to hold the whole machine really tight and it doesn't go on at all when the machine heats up. When I called,I was told that wear and tear on the gasket wasn't covered by the warranty and I should buy a new gasket for $10. The machine came that way and the service guy on the phone said some gaskets are "machined" incorrectly.
The machine was refurbished and tested by White Latte Love. I've ordered a new gasket but not from them.
Useless warranty
I bought a Gaggia last year in December and is still under the 1year warranty. I called to day because my black plastic pannarello wand crack and was wanting to see if it will be replace under the 1year warranty.
Well, turns out they told me they don't warranty the part at first.
Then I asked what does the warranty covers? They told me part and labor. I stay quite because it was obvious that there was a contradiction between my plastic wand cracking and they telling me that the 1year warranty covers parts. After a few seconds of silence, they realized the contradiction and told me to hold on a second.
They speak with someone and then tells me they don't warranty the part because the ONLY way for the plastic wand to break is if you over tighten it. That explains it, the ONLY way for the crack is over tighten, as if the part could not have had any default when it came from the manufacture that get worse and worse over time.
Am in the military and I am a mechanic for aircraft, I know what is over tie and what is not.
Anyway, let this be a warning to anyone that buys from this company and is buying from them because of the warranty (which I did bought from them because of the 1year warranty). If they are trying to blame me for a $12 part, you bet they are going to blame you for even a more expensive part.
- Product
- Warranty
Preferred solution: Deliver product or service ordered
Useless warranty
I bought a Gaggia last December 2017. In late august 2018 my black plastic pannarello wand cracked so it can not be tighten anymore.
I called in to see if they will send me a new one because it came with a 1year warranty that for parts and labor. To my surprise they first tell me that it is not cover under the warranty. When I ask them then what does the warranty covers they say parts and labor, which then I ask but the wand is part of the machine. Then they tell me that the only way for it to break is if you over tighten the wand.
This is a $12 dollar part and they are just shifting the blame to the customer as user error, without even knowing if the part had issues from the beginning.
All am saying is be careful, because if they are blaming me to not replace a $12 part, I can bet you they will blame you if your machine has a more expensive part that got broken. The warranty is useless.
Refurbished machine and poor customer support
Ordered gaggia coffee maker and was sent a defective machine. In talking to customer service they asked me to take apart the machine and check if sensor working on the magnet.
I payed $1000 for this machine and I get a defective refurbished machine and they want me take it apart. I had to argue with them to give me a refund on a machine that never worked. Then they expected me to pay for shipping back to them.
I told them they sent me a broken machine and they should pay for it. Just very poor customer service.
I explained that if I bought this from amazon there would be no questions asked, therefore I will return their machine and I will buy it from amazon.
- Incompetent customer service
- Customer service
Preferred solution: Full refund
Poor customer experience, lost a customer
I ordered a French Press coffee maker last week. Upon receiving the item, it wasn't what I had believed it to be.
I contacted customer service and explained to them my problem. I had requested a prepaid label to return the item. The declined even after I had requested a supervisor. Their website site didn't provide an accurate description of the item, or materials used in the press.
I thought it was fair for them to cover shipping back. I would have gladly ordered another item from them.
The salesperson I spoke to didn't seem interested in my concern.
There are plenty of other coffee places to order equipment from. I'd advise to seek others.
Terrible support, do not honor warranties, are not helpful for problems.
I am throwing my Gaggia Brera Espresso Machine, purchased September 1, 2017, from Whole Lotta Latte, out today. I have been using it happily since it arrived.
I am not new to espresso machines and have had my own at home for 15 or more years, to provide my one cappuccino each morning. All prior espresso machines have been purchased at Starbucks and they were in the $300-plus price range, as I recall. The Gaggia Brera worked great until I returned from a two-week vacation this week, at which time the "coffee" coming from the machine was like tea. I chatted with Mitch online who recommended I look at the maintenance video online and give the machine a cleaning.
Oh, my gosh, I had no idea I had to be a mechanic to own this machine! I called this morning and chatted with the service manager, who was very pleasant and tried to be helpful. I tried what she said to do which was change the setting on the grinder to as large as possible, which I did, and then, run cups and cups through the machine. I called back to report that my husband and I watched as I was doing this and the beans do not appear to be going down the hopper at all.
So, we believe the clog must be near the hopper, not in the part where the grinds run through. The lady I spoke to the second time was not helpful, and as a matter of fact was rude. After getting off the phone and purportedly speaking to the manager, she said I could send it in at my cost and, then, pay $39 to have it sent back; that this is a "maintenance" problem. Whoa, my purchase indicates I have a one-year warranty.
Really, cappuccino is an enjoyable part of my life, and I certainly do not need my espresso machine to be a "stress" in my life.
I will throw out this machine and buy another one from a reputable company, one that doesn't require extensive "maintenance". Be aware of buying anything from Whole Lotta Latte and from purchasing this machine.
- Customer service response
Preferred solution: Full refund
Customers are treated as criminals
Whole latte love made an error and shipped me the wrong machine. They didn't believe me - to rule out that I was some kind of scammer I had to send them a picture.
Then instead of sending me the right machine, they want me to send back the wrong one first. Yuck.
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Shady business. Never again.
Based on my experience with them and what i read on this site makes me believe they don't even sell new products. I believe everything must be open boxes, demos, returned machines or anything else except new stuff, they buy from manufacturer or somewhere else and then they sell as new even if they claim its new.
I bought a Profitec Pro500 3 months ago. Came with the warming tray bended(they replaced that after calling them), the machine had water marks all over and even some rust inside which they claim is from bench tests they perform before shipping expensive equipment. then some hairline scratches on the face of the machine. My email to them remains unanswered as of today regarding the hair lines scratches on the face of the machine(3 months after) Even the packaging was all damaged and the protective film on the machine was removed.
My felling: used *** machine Then i bought a Quamar grinder which also arrived scratched out of the box. (Box unsealed- previously open by someone) The email i sent to complain about the grinder…… still unanswered after almost 2 months and the cherry on the cake……. the coffee i bought from them (Maromas Orphea) had a Prod Date 2 days in the future. I received the coffee on 09/01/2017 and the prod date is 09/03/2017 with an expiration date 09/03/2019 :)) looks like they even tempering with the expiration dates on the coffee they sell as well and i believe with everything they sell.
And now for anyone reading this. Please do yourself a favor and buy from other place.
Sorry for my english, its my 2nd language. Thanks and good luck
Upped their price after inquiry
Sent them an email asking about a product and noticed the next day they had increased their price for it. No scruples equals no customer WLL!!
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Verified ReviewerResolved: Okay for coffee--terrible for espresso machines
Owner immediately contacted me. We received full credit for all out of pocket expenses.
Owner has taken action with Customer Service. Company sent a wonderful package of sample espressos.
After posting this review, Todd, one of the owners, immediately contacted me. When we spoke, he had already read the many emails from me that had been ignored by Customer Service and had credited my account for all of my out of pockets.
In a separate phone call with me, I found he had also reviewed my entire coffee/equipment purchase history for the last ten years and was ready with suggested espresso for the future.
Finally, he shipped his recommendations to us at no charge. Although it was a struggle to get to this point, I admit this committed owner has restored my confidence.
Although it was a new machine, I had to pay for packaging and shipping BOTH WAYS. Non negotiable or they won't repair. The repaired machine also failed and required another return. Finally had a working machine after two months.
Their accommodation was a $50 credit to be used for a future purchase. Forget about writing to owners, Gary and Todd, as they do not reply.
Machine still fails to detect empty coffee hopper and Whole Latte's reply is that it happens a lot with super automatic machines. No fix.
Preferred solution: Let the company propose a solution
Customer Support non existent
My grinder order was lost in the shuffle. They received it and charged me but forgot to ship it out.
I got a note telling me this, and the grinder is now scheduled to arrive long after the website said I'd get it. Snafus happen, I get it. But what was unacceptable was their failure to respond to any of my emails after their note about the screw up. It was a gift, I asked for shipment to be expedited.
Crickets. Decent places make up for their screw ups with--at least--a response and apology.
I ordered through this place wanting to help a small business and expecting better customer service. Sure won't bother trying that next time.
Preferred solution: Let the company propose a solution
Returns, attitude, Whole Latte Love, no love here,,,,
Horrible customer service, don't buy here, save yourselfs some grieve. After being told to take the machine apart, see where the leak was coming from, take pictures, video, then they agreed to send a new one.
I had also purchased coffee, a port Filter for a different machine, asked if I could return it, after some argument, they agreed. They also forgot to ship a part on a knock box I ordered, had to take pictures, then they sent it out, took another week. meanwhile I returned the ports Filter, at my expense, they received it at the warehouse, but want me to wait another thirty days for a credit.
These people forgot the class on customer service, or skipped that day. Go somewhere else for your espresso needs, save yourself the aggravation.
- Customer service
- Overall customer support with multiple probelms
- After the sale customer service
Preferred solution: Better customer service, you need help, allot of help.
Shipping issues to Canada
In 2014 I purchased a Gaggia Brera espresso machine. Two years in and it has now begun spilling coffee grinds outside the brew unit.
I called their tech department if they have heard of this issue. They indicated to me they were aware of a brew unit defect for this model a few years ago with the same symptoms but assumed mine was a one off or "bad luck" as they put it. The technician was pleasant and seemed knowledgeable but he said he couldn't guarantee that the brew unit was the issue but he seemed confident that a new brew unit would fix my problem. So I agreed to purchase a new brew unit for my machine.
I asked if I needed to be transferred to sales and he advised parts are purchased through the tech department. The cost was around $80 dollars which included shipping since I reside in Canada. What I wasn't advised on was the UPS brokerage fee. Now I asked if WholeLatteLove would step up and do the right thing and pay for the fee since they would obviously want me to continue to do business with them....apparently not.
They simply said it's my responsibility and referred me to the FAQ.
For reference the shipping and brokerage fee is $80 itself...more than the part that may or may not fix my issue! If this were Amazon or another large retailer, I'm sure they would of said something like, "You know what sir, given our techs aren't sales reps and they may not have known of the brokerage fee...and since you weren't advised, we'll waive it for you". If you live outside the US, use Amazon or another retailer....because it seems WholeLatteLove doesn't care to make their International customers happy.
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You’re wrong though. Products are new.
I have no stake in Whole Latte Love so my comments are my own. My experience has been terrific with them.
Two high end Gaggia machines with no indication of being used in any way.
When I had an issue with my first one, they walked me through diagnosing the problem and promptly sent me a new brew unit, no questions asked. Sorry you are ticked off with them, but I would recommend them anytime.
I had the same happen to me. They shipped me a USED machine.
And they have attitude too! He said "oh, we test them, and water can splash during shipping"....well hello? Then you should TELL me, to clean it right away. This is a lie in my opinion, I think they used my machine extensively, no way it can look this old upon arrival.
And, the parts inside, after I cleaned group head after barely 2 months, looks like a 7 year old part. And it's stainless solid steel?
How does it look this damaged? Ripoff company.
Exact same thing happened to me. After barely using the Gaggia Classic, the parts from the group head looked VERY old.
They are a total ripoff company. They also told me there could have been water from the transport, which like you say, they NEVER said to clean that. It looks like around the portafilter area are spots that have been there for a long time. And they are blaming it on me?
I barely used it, and I take great care of my things. Insulting.
Hello,
As a representative from Whole Latte Love, I'd like to help solve some of the problems you've experienced.
The first thing, is the dates on the coffee.
Those are European dates, so the roast date is 3/9/2019. They format it Day/Month/Year. This is how the manufacturer labels them.
We answer emails within 72 hours when weekends and holidays are involved, but most times we can respond the same day.
We do not have any emails dating back 3 months. Which email address did you send it to? Can you please re-send to support@***.com? If the machine was damaged, we can freight claim it.
I assure you the machines we sell as new, are sent directly from Profitec in Germany. We open the box, and prep the machines the day they are ordered, specifically for the customers who buy from us.
I was able to locate your order history based on your Pro 500, Quamar and coffee dates, so I will be sending you a follow up email. I would really like to make you happy with our company.